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[转载] 环顾亚洲:中国制造不再是廉价劣质的代名词

The “Made in China” brand has long stood for quantity not quality, for a low price rather than a top notch product.
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​中国制造长久以来都是数量和低价的代名词,而不是质量和高级产品的代名词。& m3 F! e& G! {' y
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5 J# \- p8 V; o; l' e6 RBut that is beginning to change. After decades of producing things that chip, break, stain, and freeze-up, product quality in China is quietly edging up.% A0 c* W% g0 ^
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但是这只是一个改变的开始。在生产易碎易坏生锈和冻结的产品的几十年后,中国正在安静的转型升级。
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From clothes to appliances to cell phones, Chinese goods are now proving to be as durable as those made in Japan and nearly as precise as those emerging from high-tech hubs like Taiwan.9 k: i1 ]  r% M, ?5 L
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从衣服到电器到手机,中国产品现在已经被证实和那些日本制造的一样耐用,中国产品的精密程度也像其他的高科技中心一样好了,比如台湾。
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8 l! X  F2 b( i3 U* H7 }Alex 1 day ago
  }% l9 O/ H! cIf you run a business or not, but if you do and when you buy from supplier, you have a specification that you ask your supplier to meet, then negotiate price for the goods with those specification. Serious businesses even hire auditors to make sure specification are met and suppliers are not cheating. Apple iProducts were the prime example of quality stuffs made from China.
  k/ n9 I% `6 f) USo when you get cheap "made in China" stuff sold by Walmart, Target, Sears etc., don't you think you should take a serious look at who set those cheap standard/specification first? Do you think those big retailers are going to pay for bunch of goods that don't meet their specification? Of course not.
* e6 }3 l0 E* N/ ?/ C" L+ w: @So understanding that, should you blame China for making cheap stuff, or your very own American business, CEO's for setting low standard to buy those on the cheap and reap big profit?' @* t  E  Q7 i3 p3 h) J' @
One thing I'm really puzzling is why in the world US still import so called Chinese cheap, unreliable and claimed poisonous goods by those big US retailers? Helped by importers, banks, and worse of all, majority dare to put their own brand name on the products and able to made huge profit? Were majority of the buyer, the American consumers, stupid or have mental problem?9 |0 g: V" u; d

/ o, j/ h3 _, N& Z不知道你是不是开公司的,但是如果你开的话,当你从供应商那里买货的时候,你可能先需要供应商满足你的规格表,然后你再与供应商谈价格。严肃的企业都会雇用第三方人员来保证供应商有满足这些规格,没有作弊。苹果的i系列产品就是一个中国制造的质量品的例子。  p  B( A. y/ H7 ?- j( |
当你在沃尔玛,塔吉特和西尔斯百货买到便宜的“中国制造“的产品时,你是否会认真的观察是谁设定了这个便宜的标准/规格?你是否考虑过这些大经销商会不会给没有通过他们要求的产品买单?显然不会。
& n3 j9 W& b% ?' c9 c4 U% U所以要知道,你是否应该把制造便宜货怪罪在中国头上,还是你自己的美国公司,制造低下质量规格表的CEO呢?
# w( z; u' e: W& Z8 D0 _/ ^我很不解的事是美国大零售商们为何仍然进口所谓的便宜不能信赖的,被称为有毒的中国货呢?在进口商,银行,和大多数敢于把自己的品牌名字放到这些商品以赚取巨额利润的公司的帮助下,大多数美国消费者,是脑子有病才会购买这些产品吗?
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When I saw visitors from Taiwan, Korea, Japan, HK, etc. using Xiaomi instead of Samsung or Apple phones, I know something strange is going on.
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" ^2 Z2 o) }% e! R我看到来自台湾,韩国,日本,香港等地方的人在用小米(三星,苹果躺枪),世界变得太快。3 j8 \. V% W5 i9 |* o# H

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Clearviewer 23 hours ago
8 {: M% }4 v( D. {Why China’s air is so much polluted?8 I# y; x6 H6 u
Major goods produced in China5 J9 [4 [+ o! B
• Steel 1126 million tons(2014), 49.4% of world steel
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• Cement 2.48 billion ton(2014) 60% of world' q( Z# o: k6 l5 J* v- B/ }- d
• Coal 3.87billion tons (2014) 60% of world, W5 S" r* Q0 _" g3 {& c9 q; t
• Gold 451.799 tons(2014)# 1 in the world& W, V( ?5 e9 I5 R; [2 F' ^
• Automobile 24 million (2014) = 25% of world* X( ~6 Z  v) B0 V5 q, O; o" Q. U
• Ships 50.5% of world tonnage, or number of ships = 41.7% of world
- B3 [- b: N$ w: f+ V4 t, V• Construction Equipment = 43% of world
$ U' A' S$ W& q% {o (Including Loaders, excavators, cranes, rollers,forklifts , bulldozers, concrete machinery......9 R( W+ c0 C# K( Q6 L: _
• Computer:350 million sets, 68% of world9 q5 p% Q' p1 P8 e
• Color TV:118million sets, 50% of world- T( B9 q+ L0 B" K- \# `/ q5 ]- G
• Refrigerator:73 million sets, 65% of world/ e4 V* i; c& U* ^/ x& p
• Air Conditioner:109 million sets, 80% of world* b: Z8 O3 g8 B4 [
• Mobile Phone:1.76 billion sets, 80% of world# ?8 }5 M$ [$ u
• Washer/dryer:61 million sets,= 44% of world- f, b+ W- V0 T- p, P0 w+ z: y
• Microwave:68 million sets,= 70% of world
' _- j9 ?& t1 ]: u' l• Digital Camera:82 million sets, 65% of world( F# P# D) W) c6 A6 W% y
• Digital TV top set:150 million sets, = 73% of world" n. S  n! ?9 W% m
• And 204 more other industrial products" X: n- N4 k9 S% r! y
The following agricultural Productions are #1 in the world
1 W8 f  E6 I# L7 P( @8 d' ^" @• 1607.1 million tons of grain production
% U0 q9 t! Z4 \! D) L! S+ p6 t• Meat production 87.07 million tons* Q% l$ \/ ^" k
• Egg production 28.94 million tons; x8 \7 j# H' H+ E7 m
• Milk yield 37.25 million tons5 M: Q% G' R4 M+ _4 V/ ~3 X
• Aquaculture production 64.5 million tons9 C/ b( I$ b; H7 e: h" I
• 81.78 million cubic meters of timber production
/ W% s* S: A& L8 B• Tea production 2.09 million tons
1 N1 z) ~3 O; d! f* L, ?, L9 a• Oil output 35.17 million tons+ B, ?4 W8 S3 ^# c  N9 L7 |
• 134.03 million tons of sugar production
+ P  x$ c. V+ J3 v. _/ o• Cotton production 6.16 million tons$ U! m6 k& b; u; N4 g
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为什么中国的空气污染这么严重?
5 v4 a; D' r9 h; D/ ?! H# t  m* A中国主要生产的产品:/ s5 O+ @# K0 T0 V6 l2 d. I! o  a
钢 :11.26亿吨(2014)占全球钢产业的49.4%,是美,日,德,韩,俄,意,印的总和3 L# Y3 w: k- Q. ^7 E4 H% C6 `
水泥:24.8亿吨(2014)占全球60%
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" E# D9 j# _! s0 c9 ^0 q" f金 :451.799吨(2014)是全球第一  v" b4 q' {# l
汽车:2400万l辆(2014)占全球25%
- Q7 b8 S/ P) ~. D: Y# c轮船:吨位占全球50.5%,数量占全球41.7%
) U! a* A/ o) H0 h/ H工程机械:占全球43%(装载机械,挖掘机,起重机,碾压机,叉车,推土机,混凝土机械....)+ p, m" [  f; l, g6 K
电脑:3.5亿台,占全球68%
2 |7 q; M+ F5 L& s" ^$ p: n彩电:1.18亿台,占全球50%: L0 Q7 V6 y  o: B1 l+ }
冰箱:7300万台,占全球65%
8 x5 T5 K0 _, _/ ~( T& b; D1 [空调:1.09亿台,占全球80%
2 U2 o; }7 _. _, [; Y% `+ l! C手机:17.6亿台,80%4 H; I1 I+ y# {, x% ~
洗衣机:6100万台,占全球44%
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& c' t. U. j% k, c0 X- {6 O' f数码相机:8200万台,占全球65%
! E. x# j& S& F数字电视机顶盒:1.5亿占全球73%# H1 t; Z' `5 V5 a2 h0 l
还有204项其他工业产品。
) S" v  H3 _9 T0 A! i/ X还有以下农业产品是世界第一:
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肉类产品8707万吨8 S: f; l" [0 u- h* H! a- h
蛋2894万吨
; ^2 x1 d9 w# p  |6 l" R奶3725吨
) M  ~' j6 F* b, V; u水产6450万吨/ Q% p0 d" d7 n8 S) i$ N$ ]
木材8178万立方米. `4 g# L. N. ]) l) c$ ]- G
茶209万吨
8 |% p( p- e3 i7 Z; u油产量3571万吨
1 _. d: u; n. k3 a糖1.34亿吨5 @9 C' w# i- q* J( X  \* }2 [" x
棉616万吨
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Several years ago when I was in Guangzhou, I bought a cheap copied I-phone product for fun. It lasted not even a few months. Did I complain about it? No, I didn't becoz it was a cheap product anyway.
$ `2 H/ ]6 t+ x8 VThen early last year, I bought a Lenovo phone. Still working today but it's camera is not clear (from day one) & a few functions are not no longer working properly after I dropped the phone several times. So I bought myself another phone, a Huawei Honor 7. It costs double the price of that old Lenovo phone but it's a great phone. So far, so good. Of cos it's still not comparable to that of IPhone 6S or Samsung Note 5 but then at less than half the price, what do you expect?' v9 s; }- V) i. n0 a! V" c3 {
Conclusion: In short, you get what you pay for.
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几年前我在广州生活,我买了一个山寨iphone玩。这个手机只存活了几个月。我抱怨了吗?没有,因为反正这是一个很便宜的东西。8 O* B9 \" Y" b# Q% a- k
然后去年,我买了一个联想的手机,虽然它的镜头(从第一天起就)不清楚而且一些功能在我摔了几次之后坏了,不过到今天还能用。然后我买了一个华为荣耀7.它的价格是联想手机的两倍不过它是一个很好的手机,到现在也没啥问题。当然它不能跟iphone 6s 或者三星note 5比,但是它只有它们不到一半的价格,所以你能期待什么?
5 m& s% W' f+ E5 H, g+ v0 O6 M4 J总结:总之,一分价钱一分货。. h2 E& o( R8 H9 s/ g' M
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+ J* Y- @3 H+ f. C0 `LOL: "MADE IN CHINA: GOOD QUALITY ?" w. n2 J1 K2 S. |
SOME WRITER ARE HALLUCINATING, MUST BE ON DRUGS.3 O% C) i9 L& ?& T, {+ o
CHINA WILL NEVER CREATE A QUALITY THINGS....IT'S A THROW AWAY STUFF.+ C: s/ x9 W6 l3 G9 t
EQUATE THEIR BEHAVIOR TO WHAT JUNK THEY MADE: CHINESE ARE CLASSLESS PEOPLE - COUNTERFEITER - RUDE - GODLESS - LESS PEOPLE TO GIVE TO THE POOR- LAWLESS - MONEY HUNGRY, THEY WILL SELL ANYTHING BAD JUST TO GET A PENNY - CORRUPT - DIRTY - FRAUD. SEE, THESE NEGATIVE ATTRIBUTES THE SAME MENTALITY ON HOW THEY MAKE. GOODS.8 }/ X; n) m% v5 i
oN THE SAME TOKEN, THE JAPANESE ARE THE OPPOSITE OF THE CHINESE. THEY ARE HIGHLY DISCIPLINED PEOPLE. THEY WILL NEVER STEAL OR CORRUPT AND ALWAYS RESPECTED THEIR FELLOWMEN. Did you ever seen a Japanese stole a single item when the Tsunami struck the Island? The chinese will steal anything/everything they see.
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笑: "中国制造:质量好?”
. `* H2 S; V' w7 s3 f一些作者真是产生幻觉了,一定是磕了药吧。. J# u5 ?5 h; H- c; D* ]' L
把他们的行为与他们生产的垃圾划等号的话,中国人是没有阶级的人,造假者,粗鲁的,无神的,没有人给贫穷的人帮助的,无视法律的,贪婪金钱的,他们会为了一分钱卖任何不好的东西,腐败的,肮脏的,骗子。 看,这些形容都归因于他们怎么制造商品。: R" P! y4 H; a9 K$ }" _/ H' h7 I
在另外一方面,日本人是中国人的相反面。他们是高度纪律的人。他们从不偷窃或者腐败,而且永远都尊重他们的同伴。你看到日本人在海啸过后偷抢任何东西了吗?中国人会把他们看到的所有东西都偷了。
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Ken 1 day ago# f8 \% b5 D7 E
The problem with this article is that there are a few world class products coming out of China which are overshadowed by a lot of cheap knockoffs and shoddy quality merchandise. The Chinese government has acknowledged this and seem unwilling/unable to do anything substantial about it., ^  _. b5 N0 x4 U% _" G
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这篇文章的问题在于中国确实生产了一些世界级的产品,但是中国还生产了大量廉价仿制品和劣质商品。中国政府意识到了这个但是并不想也不能为之做一些什么。- W# h' A0 g" P* y; L

$ y5 p5 [2 }( S$ \DanPT2000 1 day ago8 v+ _3 r% V& w* X" V. m
What is Made in the USA these days?? I mean completely made in the USA, not "Assembled from Foreign Components" .
/ g5 Y# W1 |% }: AGenetically modified Corn?? Soy?? 5 t& t9 O) [0 g' p; F4 d2 ]" C8 m
Beef and poultry products that are banned in most of the world (Europe, Japan, Taiwan and even China) due to concerns of Safety of Synthetic Growth hormones and use of Antibiotics in factory farms.
+ ^% ^$ O3 c, C0 b' F8 xMaybe Toothpaste (colgate) is made in USA?* o- K; }% j5 o4 \' E

! b& q3 I2 ?5 J( h现在美国能制造些什么?我指的是全部都在美国生产,不是“由外国零部件组装而成”的产品。
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+ }9 Z' Z& Z  r牛肉和家禽制品在全世界都因为安全和使用生长激素和抗生素的原因被禁止进口(欧洲,日本,台湾,甚至中国)* g" @$ D+ B9 F( I& E  G
也许牙膏(高露洁)是美国产?3 d/ S) h. A4 Y% Q& c4 {) z+ M
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4 Y0 O7 B; p2 ~# {9 S4 e; d% J8 Y/ c"Apple doesn't build iPhones in the United States, in other words, because there is no longer an ecosystem here to support that manufacturing. There's no supply chain, and there are not enough mid-level engineers. And many Americans looking for work are still hoping for a return to jobs, salaries, and lifestyles that have simply disappeared."
! |) V) B, t1 a' H0 J/ s7 CKiss your behind good-bye, Americna middle class.
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“苹果不再在美国生产iphone,换句话说,就是因为美国没有足够支持生产的生态系统了。这里没有供应链,也没有足够多的中级工程师。很多正在寻找工作的美国人都希望重新获得工作,工资和美好的生活,可是这一切都消失了。”
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loli 1 day ago
- I- N4 Y0 I( E+ x( |For electronics, I always go for China brand. They are durable and reasonably affordable.For the other thing, I buy internationally recognized brand names like Panasonic for example that are made in China. So either way, made in China is a good choice.
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4 t6 ]! w: c! y% m- J电子产品上,我一直用中国品牌。他们hh恩耐用而且价格合理。另一方面来说,我买一些全球认可的品牌比如说中国生产的松下产品。不管哪个方面,中国制造的东西都是一个好选择。
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UkroReich 1 day ago2 y6 }( O, a$ J  s$ ?
Problem is that American workers are lazy, under-educated and terrible at team-work, American infrastructure is decaying, taxes are too high and corporations are utterly corrupt# O. D& M7 F2 t& n  v. b! F: X
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问题是美国工人很懒,没有足够的教育,不会团队合作,美国的基础设施在衰败,税又太高,公司也很腐败。所以制造业去中国了。
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" r: Q5 k) C1 Z0 U( t5 J: iHoward 1 day ago; _2 V) F7 S/ O: ^- H
Wal-Mart suppresses prices, so the "Made-in-China" items you buy at Wal-Mart are so so. But in China, you can buy really good quality goods if you are willing to pay the right price. The Chinese can make better goods than almost any other country as long as the costs are not a big concern. That's why lots of famous brands are all made in China but with a tag saying "designed in Italy" or "California". Also note that "design" is the "marketing" part while making is the "engineering" part of a good in the modern global supply chain. Which one is more difficult?- {, [7 u9 G9 Y

9 j" T. v7 H  H/ h+ {' p6 q3 f沃尔玛压制价格,所以你在沃尔玛买的中国制造产品不怎么样。但是在中国,如果愿意付钱的话你可以买到很多好质量的产品。中国人可以比几乎所有其他的国家都制造更好的产品,只要不考虑成本的话。这就是为什么所有公司都在中国生产,却标注上”意大利设计”或“加州设计” 的原因。而且注意到“设计”是一个“市场推广”的部分,而在现代的全球供应链中,制造是一个“工程”部分。哪个更难一些?
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Will 15 hours ago  b' h" `) ]9 |4 j8 s
'Made in China' no longer means cheap or shoddy" except for when it does, here's how it is.
7 f$ F% H* x0 _5 OAs rule I never buy anything made in China, because I don't want to support a tyrannical regime and get junk for my hard earned cash. However, I got a DeLonghi espresso maker as a gift one fine day two months back, and it was made in China. % G. n4 o' G( g8 t) w' E
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The first time I tried it out instead of making espresso, it made a small lake under the machine. I checked the settings, made sure everything was properly in place and tried again. You guessed it another lake! So I took the machine back and had to swap it for another one of the same brand because all I had was a gift receipt. I would have gladly paid more for one not made in China but nope.) y$ Z$ x6 @4 z* o
Get back home, fill the tank with water and it starts leaking immediately! Go back and well I guess third try was a charm because it actually made espresso instead of a lake.1 W& h* N' l( M: b6 s$ f% n
Chinese quality still equals junk, caveat emptor.
. S, n0 O8 B" t; S. _: R( p( sP.S. Don't buy DeLonghi espresso makers as long as they're still made in China folks, look up the failure rate online if you'd like.
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“中国制造不再是廉价和劣质的代名词”并非如此,下面我来介绍下。不买任何中国产品是我的原则,因为我不想支持一个独裁政府也不想把我辛苦挣的钱去换一堆垃圾。但是我两个月前一个美好的日子收到过一个作为礼物的中国造德龙咖啡机。+ @! }/ X( [0 l5 }2 L5 ]
到底中国制造质量如何呢。4 p& r3 q" O4 B* J8 R3 W+ l
我第一次试着用它来代替手工制作浓咖啡时,它就只在机器下面出了一小块深红溶块。我检查了下设置,确保一切设置没问题然后再试了次。你可以想象又只出了一小点。所以我把这个咖啡机收好然后不得不在同一家品牌换了货,因为我有这个礼物的收据。我乐于不用多付钱得到个不是中国制造,然而并没有。8 Q, L: Z( y8 s" `1 L5 E
拿回家后,把管子装满水然后它马上就开始漏下来了!总之我想我应该为第三次尝试感到庆幸因为真的做出了浓咖啡而不是一块深红颜料。1 z9 s6 u; b3 K( J5 M* z0 \
中国品质仍然等同于垃圾,一经售出概不负责。
0 ~4 y) j" Z7 k+ \ps。只要德龙浓缩咖啡机还是中国人制造的千万别买,你可以在网站上查一下不合格率。
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- [6 H- j! T/ ?Bestguy Bob 1 day ago
& `2 u) P; _& x0 @) lchinese made? whatever.!!!..I'll still considered japans made durable solid products when it comes to electronic.
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中国制造?全部东西!!在电子产品当面,我还是认为日本制造的更加耐用。
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: K; D3 r" Q3 z5 g/ |6 S+ \7 I- dHuman Race 21 hours ago; _7 T$ X0 O- m; t" [8 q
I am sure people below the age of 50 will not know how Japanese products slowly shrugged off their poor reputation in quality after WWII. In those days the most common Japanese products were metal toys like cars and aeroplanes driven by wound-up spring.. C/ U2 m- T0 m: {
In those days, jokes abounded that when the paint of a Japanese car wore off, chances were that a "Milo" mark would appear! (Milo: an Australian beverage often packed in tins). Confidence in Japanese products in those days was zero compared to European or US products. In this sense, history is being repeated in the case of Chinese goods.
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8 p2 H  W6 {# w0 j我相信不到50的人都不知道二战后日本制造是如何渐渐摆脱自己低质量的坏名声的。那些年代最常见的日本产品是发条驱动的金属玩具像车子和飞机一类。那个年代,当时有很多玩笑称当日本汽车的油漆脱落时,“milo”标志就可能出现!(Milo:一种听装澳洲饮料)。当时,人们对日本产品的信任度是0,根本无法和欧美产品相比 。从这个层面来说,中国制造也只是在重复历史。
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None Given 1 day ago6 O9 k% W( t2 e  Z1 Z
China likes to steal and copy. They never innovate.
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% ~) v& m( B1 Y9 Q8 B* A中国喜欢偷和山寨。他们从来不会创新。
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