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[转载] 中俄文化有哪些惊人的不同点?

What do you find startlingly different in Chinese culture vs. Russian culture?* y" x8 t: _% ]1 `( |& j

( c- k; f0 n- P5 @. H4 EWhat do you find startlingly different in Chinese culture vs. Russian culture?3 n  C6 K2 Z, F* F( {

# A, N7 Y. D9 P$ |) p# }* L中俄文化有哪些惊人的不同点?
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" x+ w- u% D8 `) R: p# X" H, F  d) P①Feifei Wangupxed Feb 8
' T5 ~% F( Q/ g: j3 t; nThere's one thing about Russians my dad always brought up. Every time we talked about them “Old hairy dudes" (as we call our northern brethren with affection) my dad would bring it up.
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" I* m* ~) k9 f7 p( b7 _4 \# E关于俄罗斯人,有一件事总是被我父亲提起。每一次我们谈论“老毛子”(对我们北方兄弟的亲切称呼)的时候,我父亲就要说:
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) a: P# N+ a# Y. Z3 {“Do you know how many Russians ended up defecting during WWII?” My dad always started with a question.
: b5 x7 T8 X1 c" R“No. How many?” (I know the answer but I played along)9 r2 A6 u# s4 z7 d/ V8 V: m! B
“A few thousands.”, C  _: |3 c! u6 j
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“你知道整个二战期间有多少俄罗斯人叛逃?”我父亲总是以问话开始。5 a5 W. i4 d+ B1 H/ `) t
“不知道。有多少?”(我知道答案,但是配合他。)6 P# W# j- R, t8 b! z2 N( \
“几千。”: f. r7 ^1 @& v; j9 c. X
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Looking up north we often observe a certain nobility in Russian people. Sure like other “white ghosts" (or foreign devil) we often poke fun at their short (?) history 500 years ago Moscow was some regional medi town by some river. But you can’t deny their heroism first against Napoleon then against Hitler.% x4 j1 \/ K. l: h
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往北看,我们总能发现俄罗斯人民表现出的某种高尚品格。当然,如其他“白鬼子”(或洋鬼子)一样,我们总是笑话其历史短暂,500年前,莫斯科还是个建在河边上,地区级的中世纪城镇。但你否认不了他们的英雄主义情节,先是反抗拿破仑,后是希特勒。4 {' ~( \: S2 _' T
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“It's their winter" as my dad often say “it hardens people unlike us. We bend over backwards at the first sign of overwhelming force". In other words Chinese we don't do Alamo." {' g3 q( J- o1 U1 C% j* S
Russians do. And they have winter on their side.9 ]$ u( Z% A: w# Z  G+ W

# U, Z+ F! |$ G( T. _; s( A“是他们的冬天”——正如我父亲常说的那样——“磨练了其人民,不像我们。我们一看到压倒性的军队力量,就会屈服。”换句话说,中国人打不了阿拉莫战役那样的仗。俄罗斯人能,而且还有冬天做他们的帮手。
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/ W. y5 O- R% l# P: U% A( gJoseph Wang Feb 1 " D' {9 r: M$ ^1 |1 v
There were way more than a few thousand K supporters of the Germans. The big difference is what happens afterwards.
, {8 m9 q, A  t6 J# K. OIf after you defected to the Japanese you then redefected back to work for the Motherland all was forgiven and whatever you did for the Japanese was swept under the rug.$ E  y% |( l. ~0 Y: C

+ N5 g2 u* }# Q. u当时支持德国的(俄罗斯)人远不止几千人。最大的不同是在战后。如果你在投奔日本人后重回祖国为其抗争,那之前你替日本人卖力所犯下的一切行径都会被原谅,将既往不咎。; U3 H. x1 a9 ], Q1 o$ h1 U
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The Russians that worked for the Germans were pretty much all killed after the war. Once you cross the line there was nothing you could to do cross back.; P% G& P2 X3 j8 Z8 z

' Z8 U1 E) J2 ^$ e5 O3 V$ X而为德国人卖力的那些俄罗斯人战后基本上都被杀光了。一旦你越过那条界限,不管做什么你都无法回到最初。  q0 L7 b2 d' h# L) [9 y

, h7 s+ W6 ^8 {; {' o* ]4 _Igor Fazlyev Feb 1
/ _1 n0 [9 j3 j3 t$ {9 F) A( u! V& U: VActually only a rather small proportion were executed the vast majority were given long labor camp sentences that were commuted after Stalin died so most of them ended up serving about 10 years in labor camps.# m1 z- p* X* ^! j# L! R) x: j% [
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实际上只有小部分人被执行死刑了,大部分人在斯大林死后则被减刑,被判处长期的劳改刑期,所以他们中的很多人最后是服了大概10年劳改营的刑期。* n/ {$ {1 z. ~. C

$ k: d- a" K9 e* \. L9 rKang-Hahn Seo Jan 31 6 \% V5 Z: I2 a
Eastern Societies unfortunately are prone to slow rot; a type of rot where it is slow and hard to notice causing a very slow decay of the Society in question unlike the fast rot of Western Societies which either kills the Society and reforms it into something new and stronger or forces reform and the killing of the Rot.
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不幸的是东方社会倾向于缓慢地腐朽;以一种缓慢且难以察觉的方式导致社会在质疑之中逐渐地衰变,而西方社会则不同,是那种要么d覆原有社会并将其改造为新的、更强大的社会,要么迫使其改革并将腐败根除的急剧性腐败。我不知道哪一种更糟糕。
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7 S# J& c) ?' l! Y& m9 D3 zNin Mok Jan 31
2 `7 B0 `: E% AGotta disagree on the lack of violence part. Back in the golden days of youth gangsterism in the 90s basketball yards in Hong Kong's public estates were notorious for being the battlegrounds of choice for knife-wielding mobs.
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不同意缺少暴力现象这一条。回顾90年代,青年黑帮组织的黄金时期,香港公租房的篮球场曾是恶名昭著的黑帮们持械斗殴的场所。
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( `% l# ^/ y  b8 e$ R- u& Z& D③Dima Vorobiev I worked for Soviet propaganda Answered Jan 31' ^/ ]/ X' C2 Q
The ability of the Chinese for tribal self-organization no matter what is astounding to me as a Russian. No matter where they are they coagulate into tightly-knit communities with a fabulous level of self-policing.
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作为一个俄罗斯人,中国人抱团、自组织能力令我折服。不论身处何方,他们总是能够凝结众人组成具备出色自我监管水平的紧密型社会群体。
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: L( j+ J" _' F2 R- |; UIf it’s not a perfect tribal incarnation of civil society I don’t know what it is.+ T. z% j7 t  k+ q6 V
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如果这都算不上是文明社会一个群体的典范,我不知道什么才算是。' N+ L: n, W$ L3 v+ W7 N
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