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Why Japan's Smaller Military Could Hold Its OwnAgainst China
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F35是辽宁号噩梦?F35要加多少次油才能到达打击中国航母射程范围?在冲突发生前那块铁皮机就能被中国的苏霍伊战斗机干掉了。

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Why Japan's Smaller Military Could Hold Its OwnAgainst China

日本的小规模部队与中国对抗时如何能把握住自己

China's soaring military spending — up 12.3% this year — and aggressive gestures in the region couldbe setting the scene for major conflict. With various countries feuding over Pacific territory, Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe compared the ratcheting tensions to Europebefore World War I .

China's $188 billionmilitary budget far surpasses the $49 billion budget of Japan, its biggestregional rival, even if it doesn't come close to America's budget of $640 billion.China's military is alsomuch bigger than Japan's, with lots more equipment and 2.3 million activepersonnel compared to 58,000. Consequently, China ranks third on the Global Firepower Index,which heavily weights sheer numbers, behind the U.S. and Russia and ahead ofJapan at tenth.

But is China's militaryactually stronger than Japan's?

First of all, it should benoted that a ny military conflict between China and Japan would likely draw inJapan's superpower ally. The U.S. is bound by a mutual defense treaty to protect Japan,including the contested Senkaku islands, and it operates numerous military bases in Japan.Even on its own, however,Japan's smaller military has a qualitative advantage over China.

中国军事预算迅速增长——今年涨至12.3%,而且中国在该地区步步紧逼的态势有可能演变成重大冲突事件。随着日本与各国在太平洋领土上的积怨,安倍首相晋犹如置身于欧洲一战前不断恶化的紧张氛围。

中国军事预算为1千880亿美元,远超它的最大的地区竞争对手——军事预算为490亿美元的日本,即便如此也与预算为6千4百亿美元的美国相距甚远。中国军队(规模)也比日本大,装备也更多,而且与中国的2百30万现役军人相比,日本才5万8千人。正因为如此,在全球军力排名中,中国排第三, 中国在数量上占有很大比重,仅次于美国、俄罗斯,领先第十位的日本。

但中国的军力真的能比日本更强大么?

首先,应该指出的是,中国和日本之间的任何军事冲突可能会招引来日本的超级盟友。美国凭藉‘共同防御条约’有义务保护日本,包括有争议的尖阁群岛,并管理它在日本众多的军事基地。即使对于日本自身,无论怎样,日本军队虽小但比起中国素质更占优。

Themajority of Chinese weapons systems are in variousstages of decay, as detailed by KyleMizokami at War Is Boring. Only 450 of China's7,580 tanks are anywhere near modern. Likewise,only 502 of China's 1,321 strong air force are deemed capable — the rest date to refurbished Soviet planes from the 1970s. Onlyhalf of China's submarines have been built within the past twenty years.

China's first aircraftcarrier, the Liaoning, is a refurbished Soviet ship from the 1980s that is too small to launch most long-range planes and willprobably be limited to hugging China's coast.

Incomparison, Japan has been supplied with advanced military equipment fromthe U.S. In the coming year, it is slatedto purchase new anti-missile destroyers,submarines, amphibious vehicles, surveillance drones, fighter planes, and V-22 Ospreys fromthe U.S. Japan also expects to receive deliveries ofF-35s starting in March 2017.

The F-35 is Liaoning's worstnightmare,China's state-owned Global Times reported based on a Kanwa Asian Defense, which found that the F-35could strike the Liaoning with hard-to-intercept jointstrike missiles from a safe distance of 290km. The F-35 should also be able to locate and engage China's main aircraft,the J-15, before the F-35 is even detected.

大多数中国的武器系统都有着不同程度的落后。在Kyle Mizokami著的《无聊的战争》里有详尽描述。中国现役的7580辆坦克当中只有450辆接近现代(水准)。同样,拥有1321架强大的中国空军仅有502架能胜战——剩下的都是翻新自70年代的苏联飞机。而且中国只有一半的潜艇是在近二十年内建成的。

相比之下,日本已补充了美国所提供的先进的军事装备,在未来的一年里,它将向美国购买新的反导弹驱逐舰,潜水艇,两栖车辆,无人侦察机,V-22鱼鹰战斗机。日本还要求自2017年3月起获得交付的F-35。

F35是辽宁号的噩梦,中国国有媒体《环球时报》引述《汉和亚洲防务》报道说,认为F-35能从290公里远的安全距离,利用难以拦截的联合攻击导弹打击辽宁号。F-35还能与中国的主力战机——J15,发现F35之前,对其锁定并交战。

The Japanese islands arealso well protected by a missile defense system equipped with StandardMissile-3 and Patriot Advanced Capability-3 interceptors. These missiles arecapable of shooting down a ballistic missile both inside and outside of Earth'satmosphere.

" Japan has thestrongest navy and air force in Asia except for the United States," Dr. Larry M. Wortzel, the president of Asia Strategies and Risks, said ina presentation at the Institute of World Politics last September." They're still restricted by Article 9 of the Constitution, which foreverrenounces war as a sovereign right of the nation ... but you don't want to messwith them."

While Japan maintains asignificant qualitative advantage, however, the vast size of China's militaryshould not be understated, nor its rapid expansion and modernization. Nowonder Japan has responded with its first military expansion in more than 40 years.

Meanwhile, the standoff ishurting most groups short of the military industrial complex.As noted by U.S. Trust's Joseph Quinlan: "Noone is predicting an armed conflict between China and Japan, but the rising illwill between the two parties hardly engenders investor confidence in a regionbuilt on peaceful regional relations and unfettered trade and investmentflows."

日本列岛同时也被‘标准3’和‘爱国者’导弹防御系统配很好地保护着。这些导弹能击落飞行在大气层内外的弹道导弹。“在亚洲,除了美国,日本的海空军最强大”,去年九月,《亚洲战略与风险》主编Larry M.Wortzel博士在全球政治协会报告中说道。“他们还要放开宪法第9条的限制,即(删除)永远放弃发动战争的权利…但你不要对他们产生误会”。

此时日本保持了明显的质量优势,然而,中国庞大的军事规模也不该被低估,要不然他们也不会快速扩张和现代化。难怪近40多年来日本首次被迫进行军事扩张。同时,这种僵局在短期内对军民复合企业产生了伤害。

据美国信托机构的约瑟夫昆兰说:“中日之间的武装冲突无法预料,但不断恶化的形势将严重阻滞双方投资者,建立地区和平关系以及自由贸易和流动投资的信心。”



D 8 minutes ago 0 1
Every time I see military budgetnumbers posted, I chuckle. Does any intelligent and informed person reallybelieve these numbers? First off, they definitely do not include BLACK projectswhich are top secret and never published. So basically any news org who usesthis info are feeding the public a load of BS. Now itis true that one can calculate an approximate number from known projects.However even they do not reflect the potential real numbers.(后面还有点,罗里罗嗦不翻了)

每当我看到带有军事预算数字的贴子就想笑。稍微聪明点的、明智的人真能信这些数字吗?首先,他们肯定不把黑色绝密任务开支算在内,而且绝不可能公布。因此可以说任何新闻组织都能用这种信息提供给公众广播。现在能确认的是已知某个项目就能估算出大概数目。无论怎样他们怎么都不会把额外的开支算在内。



cn 7 minutes ago 0 0
Why Abe has to treat Obama like GOD ina recent visit begged by Japan??? Why Taiwan is still a problem if there is noAmerican 7th Fleet Aircraft carrier which has been assigned to protect Taiwansince Korea war??? In a recent visit to Philippines, Obama openly told Americantroops clear & loud that America has an obligation to protect our allied,unfortunately no body asked him what about South Vietnam which had beenour CLOSE ally too??? Why we has to shift 2/3 of our navy forces to South WestPacific Ocean??? At the same time, why we just sit around and opened ourBIG eyes to see Putin cleverly annexed the Crimean peninsula from Ukraine???...,in short, how come we, the no 1 capitalist in theworld could bear the largest national debt for how many years more???

这次恳求访问日本的时候,安培对待奥巴马为啥像上帝一样。自朝鲜战争以来若是没有美国第7舰队被派来保护台湾,台湾还能是个问题么??在最近一次对菲律宾的访问中,奥巴马明确并大声地公开对美军说,美国有责任保护我们的盟友。不幸的是,没人去问他为何越南也是我们‘亲密’盟友??为什么我们要把2 / 3的海军力量转移到西南太平洋??? 此刻,我们为什么只是(傻)坐着、瞪着‘大“眼睛,眼睁睁看着普京把乌克兰半岛吞掉。说白了,我们是在装相么。排名世界第一的资本国度在面对庞大的债务时究竟还能挺多少年??



Matthew W 2 minutes ago 0 0
The F-35 is the Lianing's worstnightmare?
How many times does the F-35 have to refuel just to reach firing range of theChinese carrier? The tankers will be shot down by Chinese Sukhoi fightersbefore that happens.
Japan is an Island nation that was brought to its knees by US submarines in the40s. The Chinese with Russian made Kilo class diesel-elec submarines can do itagain. Even the US has trouble tracking Chinese subs....there's nothingstopping the Chinese from launching a few torpedoes and sinking the limited #of Japanese surface vessels. The limited # and endurance of Japanese subs arenot enough to cut off the Chinese from overseas trade funneled through thesouthern South China Sea.
Quality usually beats Quantity until you get to Soviet-Chinese style quantitythen obscene weight of numbers has its own quality itself.
True, the Chinese may not be able to defeat the overall Japanese air defense oftheir nation, launch an invasion of their homeland, or even force theirsurrender; but what they can do is take the Senkakus from their rightful legalowner.
The Lianoing isn't meant to be the equivalent of a Nimitz class carrier. Its alearning tool that the Chinese will use to build the foundation needed for realcarrier operations. New domestically built hulls with larger tonnage and thecapability to launch fully equipped aircraft rather than the STOVL aircraft theLianoing is sporting. The Migs and Sukhois on the Lianoing are not fully fuelednor every hardpoint carrying missiles or bombs.

F35是辽宁号噩梦?F35要加多少次油才能到达打击中国航母射程范围?在冲突发生前那块铁皮机就能被中国的苏霍伊战斗机干掉了。

日本是一个岛国,在40年代被美国潜艇搞的都瘫了。中国可以用俄制基洛级柴电潜艇再照着做一遍。甚至美国跟踪中国潜艇都是个麻烦…没法子去阻止中国鱼雷击沉日本为数不多的军舰。日本的那些军舰和潜艇根本不够封锁南海贸易航道。质量往往胜于数量,除非你有了苏式风格的数量那么就能弥补质量上的不足。

确实,中国或许无法完全击败日本空军,侵入他们的国土,逼迫他们投降。但是,他们有能力取得钓鱼岛并成为它们的合法主人。有了辽宁号并不意味着它和尼米兹级航母一样了。这是条训练舰,是为了熟练操作航母打下基础。建造的新式国产大吨位船体并具备发射装备齐全的战机,不同于能垂直起降的战机(的航母),辽宁号是滑跃起飞式的。辽宁号上的米格或苏霍伊战机无法装满油也没法挂满导弹或炸弹。



RogerL 3 minutes ago 0 0
Consider the trade implications. Wehave outsourced so much manufacturing to China, that in the event of a shootingwar, the US would be in dire straights. No more New cell phones, computers,TV's, apparel and a zillion other things we import from China. This is a very real national security problem. In 1914the UK and Germany were intimately linked economically. Didn't keep a war fromhappening.
Think electronics made in China are inexpensive? Theprices will be through the roof if they start shooting.

考虑到对贸易的影响。我们已把相当多的制造业外包给中国,一旦擦枪走火,美国可就惨了。那些新式手机,电脑,电视,服装和无数其他的商品都没法从中国进口了。这对国家(美国)是一个非常现实的安全问题。在1914年英、德之间的的经济关系虽紧密,但并没有阻止战争的发生。想一下中国产的电子产品是不是很便宜?如果打起来那价格可就涨得没边了。



D 41 minutes ago 1 0
Japan, UK, Israel, Germany are US strongestallies. Think again.

日本,英国,德国,以色列,都是我们最强的盟友,小心点吧。



Obviously 1 hour ago 0 4
Unit 731 Experiments. find out foryourself

731实验。自己去找找看吧



Ryuu 2 hours ago 0 3
It's like you said China is increasingits military spending which means that they're in the process of upgradingtheir artillery. It'slike the old saying goes "Don't underestimate your opponent or it willlead to your downfall"

就如你所说的中国增加军费开支,意味着他们要按部就班地升级火力。俗话说的好“不要低估你的对手,否则那将导致你失败”



Tim 1 hour ago 0 2
The ironic thing is that in WW2 wefought with China and Russia against Japan and Germany. In WW3 we will befighting with Japan and Germany against Russia and China.

具有讽刺意味的是,在二战期间,我们曾与中国和俄罗斯一起对抗日本和德国。在第三次世界大战,我们却与日本和德国一起对付俄罗斯和中国。



Joe 1 hour ago 0 0
Whatever if masturbating makes you feelbetter. Looking back on the history, PLA is the only army that has not beendefeated. Russia has always been there for China, so hasChina, because of their own interests. Who would want a warmonger that isalways tries to invade other countries in his or her own back yard anyways?

撸管很爽吗?回顾历史,解放军是个唯一没有失败的部队,中俄彼此依靠,都是为了他们的各自利益。是谁想成为战争贩子呢?是谁总是在他国后院想方设法搞破坏呢?



nicky 31 minutes ago 0 1
Instead of reducing our nuclearstockpiles just give it to Mr. Abe so Japan can wipe the communist China of theface of the earth. Good bye communist China, good bye debt.

把我们的核武库存给安培分点,这样日本就能把共产主义中国从地球表面上抹掉。再见共产主义中国,再见美债。



Connect the dots 2 hours ago 0 2
Sounds like our Military IndustrialComplex is busy selling weapons to everybody in the world.

听起来好像我们的军工企业在忙着向全世界推销武器.

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